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Friday, July 25, 2008

 

The Constitution

I want to post what I'm learning in my new class.  I'm taking that Constitution class on-line - it's seven hours (seven videos), and I think I'm going to learn a lot.  Because y'know, I don't even know what the Constitution actually says, so how can I defend my rights and priviledges if I'm not clear on what they are, how they're being threatened, and what can be done?

First I learned that the Constitution doesn't give us our rights.  Our rights are God-given, and cannot be taken from us.  What the Constitution does is lay an outline for what our government can/should be.  People always look at the Constitution to 'defend' their rights, and that isn't what it's about.  You have those rights without the Constitution.  Therefore, there actually are no such things as 'your Constitutional rights'.  Well, if THAT isn't enlightening, I don't know what is.

Next is the difference between RIGHTS and PRIVILEDGES.  A right is what you can do without permission because there's no higher power to stop you.  Rights revolve around property.  For example, if you buy a book, you can burn that book, read the book, use it to prop up furniture, give it away, sell it, or rip it up and make funky letters for your friends.  Nobody can tell you what to do with it, because it's YOUR book, YOUR property.

That brings us to his next point: that every right we have comes with responsibility.  You may have the right to bear arms, but what you do with those arms is your responsibility.  Same with your words, the same with your property.  The only limitation of your rights is the right of other people.  For example, if your right to bear arms leads to an irresponsibility ending another person's right to live, you've just violated someone else's rights.  That's what laws are supposed to do - to protect the rights of the individual.

Now I do take exception with his contention that our bodies are our property from the moment we're born.  I don't agree.  Your body is your property once you're old enough to be given the rights that go along with it.  Until then, *I* contend that your body is your parents.  They will care for it, nourish it, clothe it, and keep it from harm.  A child cannot do that, so therefore they are not in possession of their property until such a time they are able to be responsible for it.  But other than that, I'm with him on the property thing.

Although I started sputtering when he said that we can do anything we want with our property... because as you know, 80% of MY property is easment, setbacks, neighbor access, and other stOOpid stuff.  Seriously, only about 20% of "our land" is land we can actually do anything with (and it PISSES me off, but we bought it knowing that).  So if it's MY land, and I pay taxes on it, why can't I do what I want on it?

Come to find out, it's NOT our land.  In order for the land to be yours, you have to have a Lodial Title (I probably spelled that wrong).  Anyhow, all land (excepting in Texas) belongs to the state, and only in Texas can you get the Lodial Title.  The rest of us buy real estate - which means we buy what's on top of the land.  So since the land isn't ours, we're actually just renting it from the government, we have to abide by their rules and pay taxes (rent) to them on that land.  Pay taxes on your house, too, according to their assesment findings?  That's because your house is on THEIR land, and they can tax whatever's on their property.

Better yet, think when you buy your car and pay off the loan that you own it?  Wrong.  Each car comes with a "Manufacturer's Statement of Origin" (MSO).    It's the car's title.  The state is given the title for each car through a deal with the factories, and they microfische it and destroy the hard copy.  So when you buy a car and pay off the loan, you're given a "Certificate of Title"... which is like being given a gift certificate.  It only represents something... that you don't have.  Until you turn that certificate in for the MSO, you don't own that car... which is why you have to pay registration on the car to the state.  Because you're actually renting that car from the government, who has the title.  And don't bother trying to get the MSO - the state won't give them out, and even if it did, you would be hauled off to jail by the police for not having registration (and therefore no license) every time you went out on the road.  This is the way government binds people and controls them.  I didn't know THAT, either!

In order to be free, you have to jump through a WHOLE bunch of hoops, pay a TON of money, fight your hiney off, and then plan on being taken to jail on a regular basis... because the government wants to make you so miserable that you will comply just to have none of the hassle that goes along with freedom.  Wha.  What a total pain in the ass!  I never knew... and y'know, knowing kinda sucks.

As for priviledges, what's the difference?  A priviledge is something granted to you by a higher (Earthly) power that others don't have.  For example, your neighbor has a book.  It's not your right to touch that book unless your neighbor allows you to.  Then you've been given the priviledge to use the book.  They can revoke that priviledge at any time, because it revolves around property that belongs to them, not to you.  People often act like they have the right to health care.  But that care is someone else's to give, and your access to it is a priviledge, not a right.  They can revoke it at any time.  The same with education and with services of any kind.  If it isn't your property, you haven't got the right.  A priviledge is the exact opposite of a right.

Anyhow, that's what I learned from the first lesson.  Just wait until I get thru the next six...!

 Posted 7/25/2008 4:26 PM - 139 Views - 24 eProps - 17 comments

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Very fascinating. Where exactly where did you find this class? I'd love to take it too.

If you don't mind sharing, that is. :kewl:
Posted 7/25/2008 4:41 PM by GidgetPeke Xanga True Member - reply

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Huh?! I never heard of lodial law or of a MOD.... this is weird. I gotta research this!
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Posted 7/25/2008 6:25 PM by BeeyondSight Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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I meant MSO...
Posted 7/25/2008 6:26 PM by BeeyondSight Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Lodial....what's the exact spelling, please? I'm in Texas....and I was under the impression that I *did* own my land (because...that's what the gov't wants me to think?)  I need to research and find out if I can get Lodial title.......

Thanks for the info - I enjoy it when you post stuff you're learning - even it's not stuff I'd normally be interested in.  I end up learning a LOT, and learning how much I need to learn....

Posted 7/25/2008 7:37 PM by fiberaddict - reply

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Hee hee! I learned all that from listening to Bill Cooper years and years ago. The guy was all about waking people up!!! The government had him shot. He had a weekly radio show and one week one of his helper guys came on instead of him and we all pretty much just sat around in shock. Like you said they make your life so miserable you eventually give up or die trying to fight it. Here's his Wiki... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Milton_Cooper
Posted 7/25/2008 8:00 PM by spinner_mom - reply

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Wow!..all this is very interesting.

Now, about kids being parent's property until their old enough to take care of themselves...wouldn't that mean that the parents can treat the child however they see fit? What if they don't take good care of their "property," as would be their right to do?

Does that change the way you look at it?
Posted 7/25/2008 8:15 PM by erinjo - reply

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thanks for sharing, very eye opening

Posted 7/25/2008 9:13 PM by Psalm113vs9 Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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@erinjo - No, it doesn't change the way I look at it.  That's where responsibility comes in.  You're responsible for what you do with your rights, and if you as a parent are not responsible with what you have, then there's a problem.  HOWEVER, calling government into it to take the children away is NOT the way to handle it.  It gives government power over that which they should not have power over.

See, government is given the PRIVILEDGE of handling issues in our nation - it's NOT their right to do so.  We elect them and give them the positions they have.  They abuse that when they overstep their bounds and begin to interfere with the individual's rights.  So government should NOT oversee family and individuals, individuals and families should oversee government.  And family should look after their own.  But people aren't responsible and don't look out for each other.  They thought it'd be easier to hand the job over to the government, so they surrendered their rights to something that should not have the power that it does.  And since the government knows how to work the system better than we do, they stepped in, made regulations, and bound us up very carefully so that now we have to contend with social services and other programs that are not necessarily helpful so much as invasive.

Posted 7/25/2008 9:33 PM by Anna - reply

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Ironically, I was just sent this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080725/ap_on_fe_st/odd_mower_madness

A Milwaukee man was accused of shooting his lawn mower because it wouldn't start. Keith Walendowski, 56, was charged with felony possession of a short-barreled shotgun or rifle and misdemeanor disorderly conduct while armed.

According to the criminal complaint, Walendowski said he was angry because his Lawn Boy wouldn't start Wednesday morning. He told police quote, "I can do that, it's my lawn mower and my yard so I can shoot it if I want."  A woman who lives at Walendowski's house reported the incident. She said he was intoxicated.  Walendowski could face up to an $11,000 fine and six years and three months in prison if convicted.

He's right - it's his lawnmower and he can shoot it if he'd like... UNLESS it's a felony to own that kind of weapon, and it's illegal to have a weapon within the city/town/state limits.  Then it isn't about shooting, it's about felony possession and violating city/town/state regulations.  Because it's not really his land, remember?  :crosseye:

Posted 7/25/2008 9:38 PM by Anna - reply

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About the kids--that's why their are adulthood laws. There are really two ages for a child to be an adult one is 18 and the other 21. That's why parents can be held responsible for any damages their child may do because they *own* them. Think about that dad who had to do jail time for his older teenage daughter's truancy. She told the judge it wasn't her dad's fault but too bad. PC calls it bad parenting but it amounts to he didn't have control over his property. 

That's also why parents could claim their children's paychecks until they were 21. Read when Almanzo is filing on his claim in the "Little House" books. His dad let him *go* early and the claim person looked the other way at his age. But the belief system is different today because most children were proud to give up their paycheck - they were contributing to the well-being of their family. Again look at Laura's thoughts when she began teaching. Children were not usually abused because it wasn't in the best interest of the family. Keep in mind that the definition of abuse has changed - both adult toward child and child toward adult. Society may have frowned on abuse but was bound by the law.

I had learned that we have rights because we were born human beings. They are God given. Always much better than government given because what government gives with one hand it can take away with the other.

Posted 7/25/2008 9:39 PM by Stephanie_in_AR - reply

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Good stuff Anna, Thanks for making us dig!
Posted 7/25/2008 10:21 PM by MTnesting - reply

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http://www.missouriconservative.com/multimedia/constitutionclass.shtml

@fiberaddict - I think it's allodial (it's hard when you're taking notes off a video and you're going on what someone says.  But here's what I found:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allodial

Posted 7/25/2008 11:12 PM by Anna - reply

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Anna, I totally agree on the child issue, but the thing I wonder about is this one:

>"The rest of us buy real estate - which means we buy what's on top of the land."

Where do mineral rights (the ability to profit off whatever gas, oil or whatever else they might come up with), under the land come into this, did the course explain? We can sell "our" property, but not sell our mineral rights, thus keeping the profits, so I imagine it's separate from the idea that the land belongs to the govt? Interesting.
FM
Posted 7/26/2008 3:02 PM by hayleyg1 - reply

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WOE! I'm bookmarking that link and gonna have to watch this myself. Thanks for sharing it!
Posted 7/26/2008 8:05 PM by misstakable Xanga True Member - reply

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@Anna - Thank you!  I'll start digging - first I need to dig out my land title...just to see what it says.  I know I own the Mineral Rights - I made sure they were included - but I'm not sure what type of deed I have.

Posted 7/26/2008 9:04 PM by fiberaddict - reply

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First I learned that the Constitution doesn't give us our rights. Our rights are God-given, and cannot be taken from us. What the Constitution does is lay an outline for what our government can/should be. People always look at the Constitution to 'defend' their rights, and that isn't what it's about. You have those rights without the Constitution. Therefore, there actually are no such things as 'your Constitutional rights'. Well, if THAT isn't enlightening, I don't know what is. ---- YES
Posted 7/28/2008 8:01 AM by FKIProfessor Xanga True Member - reply

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Aloha Anna,


     Research Hawaii!   Military Occupied!   Internationl Laws and Treaties!


Mahalo,


Aunty Nahuina,

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